Kahen wrote:
Yes I see. The inhabitant must be considered separate from BOBBY JOE, the U.S corp. created entity. I have, via UCC and Declaration of name change, noticed the Secretary of state that I have a right of claim on BOBBY JOE since I created that entity via name change some years ago and UNKNOWINGLY gave the U.S corp rights of use. BOBBY JOE is not on the certificate of birth; it was inhabitant's creation. That is the in-road to the private Trust being able to claim "beneficial" ownership of BOBBY JOE. From my study, beneficiaries are owners in part, not whole of the Trust property and are not responsible as trustees, thus they own but are not liable. This is the route until the process of operating outside U.S jurisdiction is completed as it is much more difficult to accomplish for one's knowledge level at this particular time.
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The free inhabitant IS separate from the juristic person. As long as you recognize this fact and act accordingly, you will find it easier and easier to keep them apart. Whether you "created" BOBBY JOE via name change is debatable. When a C-corp (a US franchise person, a legal fiction entity) changes names and gives notice of the change to the Secretary of State, a new entity is not created. Rather, the same US franchise entity merely changes names. I submit the same is true if ALAN ALDA changes names to BOBBY JOE and gives notice to the Secretary of State. The new name is tied to the same birth certificate, as the entity was berthed by the certificate and then altered in name only. While the inhabitant may have conjured the new name, the inhabitant did not create the entity. Split title to the entity still exists, at least at the time of the name change. The US has legal title as trustee, and you have the usufruct and beneficial interest. Whether you managed to wrest legal title and trusteeship from the US via your paperwork I cannot say for sure because I haven't seen the paperwork you employed for the purpose. It sounds like you don't claim legal title, just beneficial interest, which you already had before your paperwork was submitted. If your paperwork did anything, it may have moved the juristic person BOBBY JOE from a 14th Amendment US citizen-subject to a US national.
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